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Usenet Mac Digest     Saturday, February 6, 1988     Volume 4 : Issue 19

Today's Topics:
     Re: X on Mac ][
     Re: VLSI design tools
     What editor(s) do you program with?
     RE: broadcasting tool on AppleTalk
     Re: opinions wanted: Fool's Errand
     Font quality on the LaserWriter SC
     Re: SE replacement fan survey
     Re: Re: (LSC) Deep Dark Secrets Wanted! (also LSP)
     Re: WANTED Hebrew/English word-processor
     SUMMARY--EXCEL Tax Templates
     How reliable is GPIB board for Mac II from National Instrument?
     Re: game review: Crystal Quest
     Re: Tempo vs. Quickkey
     Re: The ROM serial driver
     Re: Bug in 9(36)b4 Kermit
     Keyboards
     Re: opinions wanted: Fool's Errand
     What to do when Macwrite crashes?
     Re: Keyboards
     Equations and Word Processing
     FullWrite competition of Nisus

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From: [e-mail] (J.S.Shapiro)
Subject: Re: X on Mac ][
Date: 28 Jan 88 04:55:02 GMT
Organization: AT&T-IS, Summit N.J. USA

Does anyone out there know if X is part of the standard A/UX
distribution? I bought my Mac II essentially to be a UNIX workstation,
but I fear the potential for the price to go through the roof.

Also, while I am asking A/UX questions, is there any concensus on what
disks (emphasis on third party disks) are supported?

Finally, rumor has it (from an Apple rep, no less) that A/UX comes with
25 right-to-copy licenses, enforced by the MacHonor(tm);-) system. Any
truth to this?
--
Jon Shapiro
AT&T Information Systems


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From: [e-mail] (Warren Gish;133 Biochem;x3-9219)
Subject: Re: VLSI design tools
Date: 31 Jan 88 16:19:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

At MW Expo, Jeff Deutsch was hanging out at the SuperMac/Levco booth to
plug his TransSPICE(TM) program which can utilize from 1 to 20 Levco
Translink transputers in a MacII.  The user interface is currently
command-line, but Jeff says he's working on a Mac-style interface.  The
word from a friend at a large S. Valley chip co. who demoed TransSPICE
recently is that the program can handle larger circuits than can the
software they use on Intel 386-based machines. Without a transputer,
TransSPICE was only negligably faster on the MacII than on a 386-based
machine; with a single transputer, it was 6X faster (on the circuit(s)
tested).  This speed is apparently most important for Monte Carlo
simulations where up to 20 simulations can be carried out simultaneously
(100X faster than a MacII). The transputers are not cheap, though.  And
although Jeff did not mention price, his program may not be cheap
either.

For more info, contact Jeff Deutsch at [phone].

TransSPICE is a trademark of Deutsch Research.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: What editor(s) do you program with?
Date: 31 Jan 88 16:53:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

I am sick and tired of always reaching for the mouse when I write
programs (which is what I [try to] write most on the Mac). Without much
more than rumors about the MPW interface, I was hopeful that it would
provide a decent editor. But NO-O-O!  It has the most awkward system
I've ever seen.  (Yes, Mac-landers, it's more clumsy than even that ugly
UN*X).  Option-this, Command-that, double click here, triple-click
there.  Commando??  BEAM ME UP! I suppose this was Apple's roundabout
way of ensuring no one would charge them with stealing the interface --
out of embarassment.

I happen to like vi.  uEMACS is better, sure, but the latest version
(3.8?) I downloaded from sumex locked up my Mac in short order so I
don't trust it.  February's MacUser describes QUED/M and compares some
of its functions with UN*X, but I don't trust MacUser.

So, Mac Programmers, what do you use?  How do you like it? Does it use
TextEdit?  Does it conform to the Mac interface guidelines?  Please mail
directly to me, and I'll summarize to the net if appropriate.

        Awaiting Flames,
        Warren Gish
        [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: broadcasting tool on AppleTalk
Date: 30 Jan 88 15:25:22 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Matthew D. Lewis)
writes:
>(break in, that is) to everyone's screens.  Specifically, an application or
>DA to do the broadcast, and an init or driver to receive it.  Anyone no of any

I have written an INIT and a corresponding application for use in our
Macintosh Lab on campus. It does support network shutdown too. It will
be shown at EUC (Apple University Consortium Europe) in Heidelberg (West
Germany) on 6th through 9th April, 1988.

It is not clear if we'll place it PD or shareware or anything at all, if
you are interested e-mail to me and I'll convince my boss (actually two
of them) that we need a policy about utilities written on our campus.
--
Joachim Lindenberg, University of Karlsruhe
Federal Republic of Germany - West Germany.


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From: [e-mail] (Garth Snyder)
Subject: Re: opinions wanted: Fool's Errand
Date: 31 Jan 88 19:24:46 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore PA

The game is essentially a bunch of about 60 puzzles bound together with
a kind of mystico-medieval plot.  The main character of the story is the
fool, who is on a mission to search the land for fourteen lost
treasures.  The story of the fool's journey is inscribed on a long
scroll which is divided up into a number of segments; with each segment
is associated a puzzle.  As puzzles are solved, more and more pieces of
the scroll become readable.  There are always a number of puzzles
outstanding, so you will very rarely be blocked by the need to solve a
particular puzzle to continue.

After all the puzzles are solved, there are some meta-puzzles that must
be solved.  I can't comment on this aspect of the game as I am only at
the point of having solved all the first-order puzzles.  When you
complete the game, the manual promises a four-minute animated display;
there is an animated prolog as well, but it is much shorter.

In my opinion, this game is one of the best ever.  BUT you have to like
puzzles.  In particular, you must enjoy word-search puzzles, jigsaw
puzzles, and word-scrambling puzzles, since about half the puzzle
inventory is drawn from these categories.  The other puzzles are all
pretty much unique and unclassifiable, and range from bizarre
Mac-interface puzzles to brilliant procedural puzzles to clever "find
out what the puzzle is here and solve it" problems.  There are also a
few coordination puzzles.

The software is supplied on three 400K disks, and is not copy protected.
It runs just fine off of my 60M LaCie hard disk.
--
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Garth Snyder            UUCP: {seismo!bpa,rutgers!liberty}!swatsun!garth
Swarthmore College      ARPA: [e-mail]
Swarthmore, PA 19081    ALSO: {hao,nbires}!boulder!garth
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Lipa)
Subject: Font quality on the LaserWriter SC
Date: 1 Feb 88 05:10:50 GMT

This may be a repeat - my previous posting hadn't showed up for an
unusually long time. Sorry if it is. Anyway, I would like to know how
the high-quality fonts are handled on the SC, the QuickDraw LaserWriter.
If they are bitmaps, I would imagine that you can't print the variety of
sizes that the current LaserWriters offer at high quality. Is this true
or do SC's do special font processing to alleviate this problem?

Bill

Bitnet: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Ted Johnson)
Subject: Re: SE replacement fan survey
Date: 29 Jan 88 17:57:59 GMT
Organization: HP Design Tech Center - Santa Clara, CA


SE Fan Replacement SUMMARY:

Three or 4 people e-mailed me info. about their SE fan replacement
experiences.

    -The SE Silencer is very good.  It eliminates
     screen jitter, and is about 1/2 as loud as
         the original fan.

    -The official Apple fan is *quieter* than the
         ComputerWare fan (Seabreeze), and eliminates
         screen jitter.  (This info. came from someone
         who went from a Seabreeze fan to the official
         new Apple fan.

Unfortunately, when I called Stanford bookstore's  MicroDisc Center
(where I got my SE), on Tuesday, they said that they *don't* have the
new SE fan yet, and claimed that Apple "hasn't officially  announced a
new fan yet".  Anyone know of a dealer in the Bay Area that *does* have
the new Apple SE fans?

-Ted Johnson

UUCP:  ...hplabs!hpdtc!tedj


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From: [e-mail] (Ted Johnson)
Subject: Re: Re: (LSC) Deep Dark Secrets Wanted! (also LSP)
Date: 29 Jan 88 18:18:17 GMT
Organization: HP Design Tech Center - Santa Clara, CA

LSC Deep Dark Secrets SUMMARY:

Okay folks, here is a summary of the e-mail responses I have received:

    Q1: how to black out the entire screen, including
            JClock?

    A1: The trick here is that JClock is a VBL task,
        and the only way to kill it is to disable
            VBL tasks.  If your only VBL task is JClock,
            then this is probably okay; JClock
            won't "lose track" of the time, because it
            doesn't keep track of the time.  If just calls
        a ROM routine once a second to get the correct
            time.

    Q2: How to write an INIT?

    A2: This turned out to be extremely easy.  Oliver
            Steele's posted response (see above) did the
            trick.  For more info., refer to Technical Note
            #14 and #110.  WARNING:  an INIT cannot use globals,
        cannot directly access other globals (such as
            QuickDraw's), and cannot be segmented.

    Q3: How to make a DA live forever?

    A3: Many people have suggested doing a Get Info
            (from inside of ResEdit) on
            the resources which make up the DA, and setting
            the "System Heap" flag.  (NOTE:  This is different
            from the "System" flag that you see when you do a
            "Get Info" the DA's file! The latter is to indicate
            whether or not the file is a "system file", i.e,
            whether or not it should have an icon like the Finder,
            System, etc.)

        UNFORTUNATELY, I have not got this to work yet.  The DA
            I want to *live forever* is the "Windows" DA that is
            shipped with LSC (it is used when you have tons of windows
            opened up on your desktop, and want to bring one to the
            top.  The Windows DA has a menu with each window's title
            listed as a menu item.  Select the title, and voila!
        That window is now the top window.)

        What am I doing wrong?  Should I alter the code of this DA so
            that it doesn't ask for a "goodbye kiss" (right now it
does....)?

            Please e-mail responses, and I will summarize for the net.

-Ted
--
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Ted Johnson
Hewlett-Packard
Design Technology Center
[phone]
UUCP: ...hplabs!hpdtc!tedj



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From: [e-mail] (Israel Cimet)
Subject: Re: WANTED Hebrew/English word-processor
Date: 1 Feb 88 06:34:12 GMT
Organization: Northwestern U, Evanston IL, USA

If you are going to do simple processing getting a Hebrew/English WP
from DAVKA is overkill(besides being expensive). Simply use the
MACINHEBREW DA which lets you use any application with hebrew fonts and
right to left motion. You can even use it with Paint or Draw programs.

I have found it to be very reliable (at least with MacWrite and
MacPaint/MacDraw). You can get a copy from SUMEX.
--
--------------------------
I. Arieh Cimet
Northwestern University


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From: [e-mail] (Carl R. Daudt)
Subject: SUMMARY--EXCEL Tax Templates
Date: 1 Feb 88 15:45:02 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

The overwhelming EXCEL Tax templates recommendation that people are
giving me is

    Heizer Software
    1941 Oak Park Blvd. Suite 30
    Pleasant Hill, CA  94523.
    [phone]   [phone]

For $35 (plus $5 handling?) you get templates for about 22+ IRS forms
which produce printouts in IRS-acceptable format. For an additional fee,
state tax forms also exist for California and New York.

A free sample 1040 form from Heizer exists on SUMEX (available via
anonymous login) which has limitted functionality--it is
EXCEL-protected, and therefore cannot be linked to other worksheets (IRS
forms).  The purchased version is unprotected.

One respondant recommended "a place near Philadelphia called EZ ware
that makes superb Excel templates".  He used their tax templates last
year and plans to again this year. The company apparently advertises in
all the Mac magazines.

Someone also mentioned that BMUG had tax templates for 1986 for only $3,
but he had no info about availability for 1987.  If someone does has
more info, please post.
--
-Carl Daudt, Earth & Atmos Sci, Purdue Univ, W. Lafayette, IN 47907
[phone] email: [e-mail] -or- [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Fang Zhong)
Subject: How reliable is GPIB board for Mac II from National Instrument?
Date: 1 Feb 88 16:34:43 GMT
Organization: Duke University Physics Dept.; Durham, N.C.


   We have questions for people who have used GPIB board for Mac II from
National Instrument. How reliable is it in general? Are there any
problems when several instruments are connected to the board at the same
time? Has anyone used the board continuously for a period of several
weeks or  longer without problems?
   Thanks for any help in advance.
--
    Fang Zhong                1-919-684-8247
    Duke University Dept. of Physics    [e-mail]
    Durham, N.C.      27706            mcnc!duke!dukempd!fang


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: game review: Crystal Quest
Date: 1 Feb 88 07:07:03 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

In a previous article, [e-mail] (Andrew S. Glassner)
writes about Crystal Quest, the great sequel to Crystal Raider.

I purchased this fine game last week for $24.95 - a great deal.  I would
like to clarify that this game is not technically copy protected.  I did
a simple image (full sector) copy of the original and the copy works
fine.  The desktop does not do an image copy when doing a full disk
copy.  I think this form of protection was to prevent people from
pirating the game via modem (who would want that?).  I personally like
this key protection.
--
Support Greene, Inc. and Patrick Buckland... run out and purchase this puppy.

I think this is going to be painful...                 [e-mail]
I don't know who Ron S. Vanco is...         sun!portal!cup.portal.com!fireplace

~~TERMINAL DOES NOT SUPPORT COLOR HOLOGRAPHIC IMAGES - GRAPHICS SKIPPED~~


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From: [e-mail] (Marsh Gosnell)
Subject: Re: Tempo vs. Quickkey
Date: 1 Feb 88 15:05:24 GMT
Organization: AT&T ISL Lincroft NJ USA

The original Tempo took up two (not 5-6) DA slots.  It did have it's own
installer but Tempo II does away with all that.

Tempo II installs as an INIT (drag it into your system folder and
reboot).  It has a bunch of new features (I wish I could remember them
all) such as playing a macro by name that Quickeys doesn't.
  Marsh Gosnell


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From: [e-mail] (-- Byron B. Han --)
Subject: Re: The ROM serial driver
Date: 1 Feb 88 19:44:55 GMT
Organization: Communication Tools Group - Apple Computer, Inc.

There is nothing inherently wrong with the ROM serial driver (that I am
aware of).  It lacks some of the nicer features that the RAM-based
serial drivers  have, like manipulation of DTR, break stuff, parity
error character  replacement, etc etc etc.

This is NOT an official Apple statement or position.  Just my personal
experience with the serial drivers on the Macintosh.
--
------------------------ Byron Han,  Communications Tool ----------------------
     Apple Computer, Inc.  20525 Mariani Ave, MS 27Y  Cupertino, CA 95014
 ATTnet:408-973-6450    applelink:HAN1    domain:[e-mail]     MacNET:HAN
GENIE:BYRONHAN   COMPUSERVE:72167,1664   UUCP:{sun,voder,nsc,decwrl}!apple!han


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From: [e-mail] (Gary B Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Bug in 9(36)b4 Kermit
Date: 31 Jan 88 21:14:48 GMT
Organization: Atrium @ The Alamo

> Yes, I know that this version is a beta version, but since someone on the
> net had said how virtually flawless it was, I'd post my finding here.
>
> It seems that no matter what I do, I can't get the Kermit to emulate
> Even parity.  The IBM 3081 here at U. of Texas is very fussy and its
> front-end converter (ASCII to to EBCDIC) requires EVEN and EVEN ONLY
> (its caps).
>

Chris:

  Your problem might not be in the terminal program at all.  Down here
at UTSA we have problems with that front-end converter when we try to
run Kermit in Yale-Ansi VT100 emulation.  To use kermit, we must go to
LINE mode (Yeeeck!) to do a file transfer.  I'm not sure how ya'll are
set up there, but I have heard that this is a common problem (Matter of
fact, some genius up there FIXED the problem, and we're waiting on him
to send the update on the controlling software for that front-end
Micom!)

Try going to line mode and then transferring.  It might help.

As far as the next update on the Kermit, I dunno.  Anyone check CUVMA
lately?
--
                                  --Gary

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From: [e-mail] (Jeff A. Hallett)
Subject: Keyboards
Date: 1 Feb 88 14:13:55 GMT
Organization: General Electric CRD, Schenectady, NY


There has been some discussion lately about keyboards.  I have a
question that may turn into a debate, but I'm wondering which is better,
the Apple Extended keyboard or the DataDesk Mac 101 keyboard? Now, by
"better" I'm really asking someone who has tried them both to guage the
feel of the keyboard.  I'm looking for ease of hand posturing, tactile
feedback on a press and relative ease to reach all the keys.  For
example, the old Macintosh keyboard forces the hands to be too high up
for comfortable use, absolutely no tactile feedback when a key is
pressed but the keys are all relatively easy to get to.

Any feedback is appreciated.
--
Jeffrey A. Hallett                     | ARPA: [e-mail]
Software Technology Program               | UUCP: desdemona![e-mail]
GE Corporate Research and Development  | [phone]
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From: [e-mail] (Walter Hunt X7031)
Subject: Re: opinions wanted: Fool's Errand
Date: 1 Feb 88 19:12:39 GMT
Organization: Compugraphic Corp. Wilmington, MA

It took three solid weeks of messing around, a few hours at a time, to
get to the end.  Three avid puzzlers and Infocom vets, myself included,
worked at it.  It's very addictive, and very clever. After you solve the
sixty puzzles in the main game, you find out that nearly half the game
is left to play!

The graphics, including the animation at the end, are extremely well
done.

>
>In my opinion, this game is one of the best ever.  BUT you have to like

I agree completely.  This game also is complex and intriguing enough to
play more than once, some months apart; my wife is going it alone at the
moment, six months after we (& a third friend) did it together.

>It runs just fine off of my 60M LaCie hard disk.
>

and off our 80M Jasmine.  It's probably best off a hard disk.  Buy the
game; it's truly wonderful.  I can't wait to see what they do by way of
an encore.
--
Walter Hunt
CG


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Carr)
Subject: What to do when Macwrite crashes?
Date: 1 Feb 88 16:22:35 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University - Computing Center

i work in a mac lab where a lot of people use macwrite (in conjunction
with the laserwriter, of course).  Many times someone's mac crashes
after they have typed a couple of pages of text and before they have
saved it.

Does anyone know the hex address i can G(o) to upon hitting the
programmer's switch on the side?  I believe many know the address to
return to the finder. If i could have that one too, i would truly
appreciate it.

I know that it doesn't always work, but it is worth a try.  Please send
e-mail to me, rather than posting. Thanks
--
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
 :: Daniel Carr :::::::::::::
  ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
   ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
   // [e-mail] //
  // [e-mail] /////
 // d.c.carr //// GEnie /////
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From: [e-mail] (71018000)
Subject: Re: Keyboards
Date: 2 Feb 88 02:36:34 GMT

Well, at the Mac Expo I purchased the Data Desk Mac 101 Keyboard...and I
am impressed.  As far as I can tell, it has all of the features that the
Apple Extended Keyboard has.  Is less money too.

The differences:

The ADB ports are next to each other , centered on the back of the key
board. This should not be a problem, but, because I dont have much room
(typical dorm) I have my mouse in back of the keyboard with the mac to
the right... this causes the cables to stick out a bit, but, it is no
biggie.

The keyboard is adjustable, up or down, dont know about Apple's.  I
assume theirs is.  It has the lights for caps lock, window lock, and
power on.  If you have a mac II, this keyboard will work, but they have
a upgrade,  for the same price (at least at the show) that has a power
button next to the ADB ports.  This is so you can turn on and off your
mac II as you would with the power key on the II.

I like the feel of the keyboard, and I like the fact that Quickeyes
accepts all of the the 15 function keys....nice.  As well as the cut
paste home end etc keys.

I love the fact that vi accepts the arrow keys!!!!!

I am really happy...

Scott

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From: [e-mail] (James T. Aslanis)
Subject: Equations and Word Processing
Date: 1 Feb 88 21:44:15 GMT
Organization: Stanford University

Here's one user's perspective on equation processing on the Macintosh.
Currently, no combination of word processing program plus equation
processing program matches the power and flexibility of TEX, but I wish
there were...

These are the programs I have tried:
    MS Word 3.01
    Sample WriteNow 0.07
    Try MathType 1.51
    Expressionist 1.1 (1.11 update coming)
    MacEQN 2.1
    Textures 1.01 (Latex coming)
    MacDraw 1.9.5
    SuperPaint 1.0p

Problem #1: (Word Processors and graphics)
    Word processing programs handle graphics "slowly."
    Expressionist, MathType and MacEQN generate
    pictures. Add lots of pictures to a word processor
    (consider the density of equations in a mathematically-
    oriented thesis) and watch the word processor slowwww dowwwwn.
    Sample WriteNow slowed to a snail-like pace.
    MS Word is fast enough, but see problem #3. For FullWrite
    users, has anyone tried a 20 page document filled with a
    text:equation ratio equal to a graduate level mathematics
    textbook?  Is it fast enough?

Problem #2: (Editing equations)
    I know of no program that offers search and replace capabilities
    for graphics.  If you must change notation in your 20 page paper
    or your 200 page thesis, you must edit EVERY equation.  With
    TEX you can easily use search and replace; even better, you can
    define macros and then edit the macro definition.

Problem #3: (MS Word 3.01)
    MS Word incorrectly boxes equations generated by Expressionist.
    Some of the equation may be cut off by the bounding box
    boundary.  Resizing the box of every inserted equation
    quickly becomes tedious.  Also MS Word has trouble with
    small type (4-6 point).  Small letters in some equations
    don't print or show up on the screen (the letters are there
    if you paste the equation back into Expressionist from Word).

Problem #4: (Expressionist)
    Equations generated in Expressionist and pasted into MacDraw
    cannot be pasted back into Expressionist from MacDraw.  Under
    MultiFinder I have managed to cut from MacDraw into MS Word
    and then into Expressionist, but the setup is unstable and
    you won't wait long before "la Bomba." I then
    tried SuperPaint.  Although you can paste
    equations back into Expressionist from the draw layer of
    SuperPaint, you can also easily crash SuperPaint with Expressionist.

Problem #5: (MathType)
    I will agree that MathType provides much better typesetting than
    Expressionist.  MathType also provides automatic typeface
    selection. But I cannot figure out how to change a
    specific character's size or font (maybe it's possible);
    this task is easy in Expressionist.
    MathType equations can be pasted into MacDraw or SuperPaint
    but not pasted back into MathType.

Problem #6: (Textures)
    The Textures editor lacks parentheses matching, which makes
    complicated equations difficult to generate.  Here MathType
    rescues me by generating TEX; MathType cannot interpret
    TEX equations though. I also find
    TEX files difficult to read, so editing becomes a chore.

Summary:  I love my Macintosh, and I curse TEX; but I use TEX, because
nothing yet competes effectively.
--
J. T. Aslanis
Information Systems Laboratory
Stanford University


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From: [e-mail] (Mark Remann)
Subject: FullWrite competition of Nisus
Date: 2 Feb 88 09:39:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

I don't want to be blasphemous to a net that seems to have open its arms
to FullWrite, but I did see a word processor at MacWorld that seems to
have many of the same features that FullWrite has. Its a product by
Paragon concepts, the same people who did the text editor qued & qued/m.
It seemed to have a nicer interface for drawing graphics in text  and a
bit faster than the FullWrite demo. Too bad they weren't giving out demo
copies for us users to play around with. I'm not sure what the release
date on Nisus is scheduled to be yet, but I'm just wondering if anybody
else might have gotten a better look at it and how they compared it to
FullWrite.

Mark Remann

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